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Postby Wool » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 5:29 pm

There is a house on Wigton Lane called Wigton Castle.......
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Postby liits » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 5:30 pm

Mark S wrote:
Fair point, wasnt there suppose to have been a Motte and Bailey Castle at Armley.


Its just dawned on me; if he arrived by train, and saw the gaol, maybe he was talking about that and trying to be comical.    
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Postby BarFly » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 7:24 pm

liits wrote:
Mark S wrote:
Fair point, wasnt there suppose to have been a Motte and Bailey Castle at Armley.


Its just dawned on me; if he arrived by train, and saw the gaol, maybe he was talking about that and trying to be comical.    
Reminds me of when some colleagues came over form Hong Kong and were excited by the castle on the hill you could see from the office window.
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Postby Leodian » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 7:40 pm

I'm probably reading too much in it but the supposed site where Leeds Castle was does look in this Google Earth view like its general shape still resembles where a Castle/Motte and Bailey could have been (well it does to me Tongue) despite all the changes to the area over time.    
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Postby Cardiarms » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 8:57 pm

Mark S wrote:
Fair point, wasnt there suppose to have been a Motte and Bailey Castle at Armley.

What did leeds have worth nicking or defending back then, to warrent a Motte and Bailey in that location.

I'm guessing at the dam and the mill.
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Postby Mark S » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 11:13 pm

Cardiarms wrote:
Mark S wrote:
Fair point, wasnt there suppose to have been a Motte and Bailey Castle at Armley.

What did leeds have worth nicking or defending back then, to warrent a Motte and Bailey in that location.

I'm guessing at the dam and the mill.



Motte and bailey existed at Giant's Hill, Armley in 1300, when it was called Castlearmelay. Destroyed by 1776.
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Postby Cardiarms » Tue 01 Jul, 2014 11:35 pm

roughly where the skip makers is next to blue line taxis, i think.
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Re: Leeds Castle

Postby Leodian » Sat 17 Dec, 2016 9:33 pm

Relating to the Castle the following is an extract from Ralph Thoresby's 'Ducatus Leodiensis' 1715. I have put a modern 'f' where there was an f-like letter that was then often used for an 's'.

“The greateft part of this ancient and populous Town ftands upon the North Side of the River Are, upon an eafy Afcent; the Topographical Defcription of which is begun at the Weft Part, becaufe there of old ftood a famous Caftle with a Park adjoining, which, though now converted into leffer Inclofures, yet retains the Name of the Park to this day, and gives Denomination alfo to the Lane on the North Side thereof.

THIS Caftle was befieged by King Stephen in his March towards Scotland, Anno 1139; and here was the unfortunate Prince, King Richard II. lodged fome time before his barbarous Murder in Pontefract Caftle...

WHERE the Caftle of old ftood, is now a Capital Meffuage, and the ancient Mannor-houfe...

The Street that leads from the Caftle to the Town, is called the Bore-lane, or rather Burrow-lane...”.

It’s interesting why occasionally a modern ‘s’ was used rather than the fancy ‘f’ that I could not type and that a normal ‘f’ was used where there was an ‘f’ in a word. I had to look up what a Messsuage is and found it is “a dwelling house with outbuildings and land assigned to its use”.
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Postby mark1978 » Sun 18 Dec, 2016 9:46 am

Jogon wroteColoncapHere's the only remaining "photo" of it.

Is anyone able to re-upload the woodcut of Leeds Castle? I'd love to see it.
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Re: Leeds Castle

Postby warringtonrhino » Mon 19 Dec, 2016 9:52 am

I have in the past produced a series of historical maps of Leeds in the style of the modern OS ones. This one is the medieval which shows the site of the old moated manor house, in the location of the Scarborough public house.
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