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Phill_d
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Post by Phill_d »

Is anybody good with converting miles & chains? I'd appreciate any help with my little puzzle i'm scratching my head with. I need to know how many miles 109 chains is.. 1 mile equals 5280 chains.. i think... the standard chain is 66 feet.. Does that apply as standard u.k measurement? The tunnel is 2501yds long & i could only get to 109 chains... How much of the tunnel is left unseen? Have a look here please http://flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/515911455/ i'm confused :-0
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Barwicker
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Post by Barwicker »

One chain equals 22 yards or 66 feet. 109 chains therefore equals 2398 yards. So if the tunnel is 2501 yards long you were only 103 yards from the end. A chain is also the length of a cricket pitch.

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Post by Phill_d »

Thanks Barwicker.. Another guy who's been down there earlier worked out it's 684yds from the end.. Every time i do it..i get a different fiqure...( I give in ) Looking at my pic it looks a lot further than 194yds to the end.. There's only one thing for it... Anybody up for a canoe trip to help solve the mystery?? :-)
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Post by Barwicker »

PhilI have had a quick read of the relevant portion of "A Regional History of the Railways of GB ...South & West Yorkshire by David Joy. He confirms the length of Queensbury Tunnel as 2501 yards. That leaves me to query the accuracy of the figures painted on the wall. Who measured those? If you are going there again are you able to check the distances quoted. 109 chains covered should leave only 103 yards to the other end.Although the tunnel was abandoned in 1956 it appears that it was used in around 1969 by some scientists from Cambridge investigating movements of the Earth's crust. Are the figures their's?Did the Earth move for them?Building of the tunnel took over four years due to difficulties with water bearing strata..... no doubt the cause of your present problems.

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Post by Phill_d »

Yes it's a puzzle Barwicker. Queensbury & clayton tunnel are less than 5 mins apart. Clayton has proper chain markers with no refuges. Queensbury has them painted on with plenty of refuges.. There are a lot of markings on the wall. It appears railway oriented... Maintenance e.t.c.. There's my Clayton & Queensbury sets in here http://flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/col ... 204027395/ Have a look if you like. There's some links to how it was in the old days as a nice comparison..
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Barwicker
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Post by Barwicker »

Yes I see what you mean about the markings in Clayton Tunnel. I think I will leave further investigation to you. I have walked through one railway tunnel and been down a working coal mine but the thought of another does not exactly appeal to me. Good luck.

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Post by mike »

Do you think the machines you can see/hear are the experiments left from the cambidge scientists? Often these things can go on for a while, you never know maybe they left it all there and its still collecting data!Phil, Did you find the other end?
Mike

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Hi mike.. The machinery noise had stopped this week..although the loud gush of water was still going... There's a lot of earth moving going on at the other end of the tunnel & my money is on the noise coming from the bulldozers e.t.c. That suggests to me i wasn't too far from the strines portal. It's under 30' of water at that end. I made a mess of my directions for the portal & ended up on top of the tunnel instead. From my vantage point i took a pic of where the cutting is.. Only when you walk on top of the tunnel do you appreciate how long it is. Considering i'd walked over 4 mile in 2 tunnels that day & up the biggest hill you've ever seen i called it a day shattered.. PHEW :-0
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The cutting is the dark strip of greenery sandwiched between the lane & the brown strip of land where the diggers are. If you look at this pic http://flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/515911455/ Tunnel rat has added a link to his picture of the flooded portal. I'll have to go back again to get this with the correct co-ordinates this time    :-)
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