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Oo me and me Dad used to go digging for old bottles in a field near Temple Newsam. It must have been the waste tip for the house at one time reckoned me Dad.We found some 'oxo' bottle of various sizes and other branded items. My favorites were the octagonal shaped bottles me Dad sez were used to store medicines. I found a beautiful cobalt blue bottle of that shape that was for poison apparantly. Well as a kid that was marvelous to know! Me prized possesion for years.I think they are still in me Dads attic, i'll have to retrive them next time I'm there as this thread has got me interested in them all over again

When i worked on contract to the gasboard i spent a long time working at Saviletown Dewsbury building Hydro Carbon Reforming Plants .Hows that for a mouth full the site we were on was the old Gas Works when they were digging out the footings we found all sorts of things ie bottles dolls heads we even found news papers from the nineteen hundreds the papers were in a big bundle i think this is why they did not rot.I was toid a lot of the old gas works were built on old tips one old tip is in the valley at the side of Post Hill in Pudsey its been well dug over so i dont know if any thing is left this would be at the side of HoughSide Road.

Those old newspapers sound fasinating - could you still read them without them faling to bits? I'd have spent hours reading those

purplezulu wrote: Those old newspapers sound fasinating - could you still read them without them faling to bits? I'd have spent hours reading those Hi purplezulu yes you could still read them but you had to peel them apart with care.I used to go down the trenches after the JCB had done its work to see what i could find most of the things where broken when thrown away so it was pot luck if you found any thing intact.But things like bottles were whole so they were ok we often found cod bottles there the ones with the marble in the top also stone ginger beer bottles it was just like being on time team.

O I bet that was great - better than Time Team ha ha all they find is bits of old pot and some 'interesting' variations of mud It's so funny to watch poor Tony trying to hide his dissapointment bless 'im.Those old cod bottles are where the phrase 'codswallop' comes from if I remember correctly, I can't remember the details of why though. It will be on t'net somewhere no doubt.

Phill_dvsn wrote: And this is the result if your not carefulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmar3l1nis&feature=relatedThe hole collapses on him, and they have to dig him out lol      I have to admit watching the first Youtube videos was interesting but I steadily became more and more un-nerved by what I was watching!Having spent my whole working life involved in digging and working in holes (trenchs, tunnels to multi-million m3 holes), I was absolutely horrified at the blatent risks taken working in unsupported excavations in poor ground conditions.It would not have taken much for the outcome of the video above to have been much much worse. The buried lads friends would have felt particular stupid explaining to family/friends that his death or serious injury was all for a few old bottles and could have been prevented by digging a stable batter or using some simple shoring?Lord alone knows what pocessed them to post that at all ............. perhaps a desire to "show the world just how stupid we can be?"If the incident and practices demonstrated in that video had been in a workplace, I suspect all involved would be picking up their P45s and the employer would have their collar felt by the HSE (for example in the last few weeks http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-e-58.htm )I am neither suggesting or advocating that they should desist from their digging, just they engage their brains to either form a stable batter (slope) or shore up their excavations ............ thats said they can steer well clear of any of my sites!

grumpytramp wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: And this is the result if your not carefulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmar3l1nis&feature=relatedThe hole collapses on him, and they have to dig him out lol      I have to admit watching the first Youtube videos was interesting but I steadily became more and more un-nerved by what I was watching!Having spent my whole working life involved in digging and working in holes (trenchs, tunnels to multi-million m3 holes), I was absolutely horrified at the blatent risks taken working in unsupported excavations in poor ground conditions.It would not have taken much for the outcome of the video above to have been much much worse. The buried lads friends would have felt particular stupid explaining to family/friends that his death or serious injury was all for a few old bottles and could have been prevented by digging a stable batter or using some simple shoring?Lord alone knows what pocessed them to post that at all ............. perhaps a desire to "show the world just how stupid we can be?"If the incident and practices demonstrated in that video had been in a workplace, I suspect all involved would be picking up their P45s and the employer would have their collar felt by the HSE (for example in the last few weeks http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-e-58.htm )I am neither suggesting or advocating that they should desist from their digging, just they engage their brains to either form a stable batter (slope) or shore up their excavations ............ thats said they can steer well clear of any of my sites! Grumpy, a sentiment shared by many - I hope. So often the view of H & S is thought of as what hasn't happened rather than what could happen and when things go wrong but with an outcome of minimum consequence, it's treated as funny.'That You've Been Framed' programme is a prime example of such hipocrisy - if some of the things which are shown happening to children occurred whilst in the care of a childminder or school - the first thoughts would be who to sue. Similarly I'm sure this would be the case for adults if the results of the stupidity of some arose at work, after all, it's always someone else's fault isn't it.I know be often belittle H&S on here when it streps over the bounary to the ludicrous but common sense and forethought saves life, I doubt our Phill ever troggs off somewhere 'ify' withiout at least someone knowing the details....

grumpytramp wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: And this is the result if your not carefulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmar3l1nis&feature=relatedThe hole collapses on him, and they have to dig him out lol      I have to admit watching the first Youtube videos was interesting but I steadily became more and more un-nerved by what I was watching!Having spent my whole working life involved in digging and working in holes (trenchs, tunnels to multi-million m3 holes), I was absolutely horrified at the blatent risks taken working in unsupported excavations in poor ground conditions.It would not have taken much for the outcome of the video above to have been much much worse. The buried lads friends would have felt particular stupid explaining to family/friends that his death or serious injury was all for a few old bottles and could have been prevented by digging a stable batter or using some simple shoring?Lord alone knows what pocessed them to post that at all ............. perhaps a desire to "show the world just how stupid we can be?"If the incident and practices demonstrated in that video had been in a workplace, I suspect all involved would be picking up their P45s and the employer would have their collar felt by the HSE (for example in the last few weeks http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2010/coi-e-58.htm )I am neither suggesting or advocating that they should desist from their digging, just they engage their brains to either form a stable batter (slope) or shore up their excavations ............ thats said they can steer well clear of any of my sites! Not to mention getting your collar felt by the law!Leeds City Council Have a total blanket ban on metal detecting on any of there land so i think this will also stretch too digging 10ft holes for bottles! lol

chameleon wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Someone sent me a link to this Youtube video asking me if i'd ever found anything old on my explores. I hadn't heard of it before. But it seems there's a group of guys who go around digging up the old dumps around Leeds to find any old relics. They've found some great stuff. Brandy in particular might like this. I know he's a keen Metal detector fanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFaTgeLAc3w&feature=relatedI'm glad were not the only ones to be digging up parts of Leeds lol      Which reminds me - must see if we can't dig up Arry, he's been missing a while now..... Sorry Champers! Got a bit bored so 'Bottled Out' Groan!Been giving SL a miss lately but keep having a look occasionally!Cheers for askin'Arry ps if any bottle twitchers are interested, I have abt 5 emptyreal ale bottles to give away i.e 2 Abbot Ales, 2 GK IPA,sand a Chas Wells Bombardier (SORRY Wiggy! Back to sleep now!)Applications,please, on a beer mat with a 2nd class stamp.Tarr-ah!

'Arry 'Awk wrote: chameleon wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Someone sent me a link to this Youtube video asking me if i'd ever found anything old on my explores. I hadn't heard of it before. But it seems there's a group of guys who go around digging up the old dumps around Leeds to find any old relics. They've found some great stuff. Brandy in particular might like this. I know he's a keen Metal detector fanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFaTgeLAc3w&feature=relatedI'm glad were not the only ones to be digging up parts of Leeds lol      Which reminds me - must see if we can't dig up Arry, he's been missing a while now..... Sorry Champers! Got a bit bored so 'Bottled Out' Groan!Been giving SL a miss lately but keep having a look occasionally!Cheers for askin'Arry ps if any bottle twitchers are interested, I have abt 5 emptyreal ale bottles to give away i.e 2 Abbot Ales, 2 GK IPA,sand a Chas Wells Bombardier (SORRY Wiggy! Back to sleep now!)Applications,please, on a beer mat with a 2nd class stamp.Tarr-ah! So long as your well old boy and not got lost in your travels through the Brotherton Wing or owt