Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

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Leodian
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Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

Postby Leodian » Fri 04 Aug, 2017 9:00 pm

There are very many gravestones at Leeds Minster that are used in the pathways. When walking at Leeds Minster on August 1 2017 I happened to notice a gravestone near the Church Row end that had a number 22 carved on it but no other wording. Wondering if there were other numbered gravestones I went back on August 3 and had a longer look around. I cannot say I definitely saw all of the gravestones around the Minster but I certainly looked at very many. In all I saw the following numbers:- 3, 12, 22, 29, 30, 31, 32, 37 and 42 (they were not in position order as 29 was next to 37 for example).

I wonder if anyone knows why some (but clearly very few) are numbered? I did not look so I don't know if there are some numbered gravestones lining the railway embankment opposite the Minster and on the embankment by York Street opposite the bus station.

I have added photos showing three of the numbered gravestones. The wording on the top of number 3 is "Here lieth interred the body of William Smith, who died Sep 27 1784 aged 67 years. Also his 3 wives & 12 children" (the Sep may read Sept and the 27 may read 27th but it was very hard to decipher).
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Re: Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

Postby warringtonrhino » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 8:32 am

In some graveyards the plots are numbered and the plot number was often carved onto the back or side of the headstone or on the face of a flat or flush stone. When the graves were moved the numbers could have been placed out of numerical order? Just a theory?
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Re: Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

Postby jma » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 10:18 am

We live and learn. I hadn't realised before that the Parish Church had become the Minster. (I did know that the Ripon Diocese had been reorganised, but not this aspect.)
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Re: Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

Postby volvojack » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 1:47 pm

[quote="jma"]We live and learn. I hadn't realised before that the Parish Church had become the Minster. (I did know that the Ripon Diocese had been reorganised, but not this aspect.

I have heard it referred to on Secret Leeds as the Minster but to me it will always be the Leeds Parish Church.

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Re: Numbers on just a few gravestones at Leeds Minster.

Postby blackprince » Sat 05 Aug, 2017 3:50 pm

The relocation of these gravestones to the railway embankment and paths form the original burial ground has been covered in a few previous threads but most memorably in jims thread " Silent as the Grave". http://www.secretleeds.com/viewtopic.php?t=6184

It contains an extract from a book, posted by Uncle Mick, detailing the concessions made by the railway company to get permission to route it through the graveyard. This is a some of the text:

The line was extended ( 1865-69) "via an embankment , specifically designed not to disturb the graves , through St Peter's church burial ground to Marsh Lane. To satisfy ecclesiastical susceptibilities the 1865 authorisation act provided for the laying of rails on "India Rubber"; for the use of semaphore signals instead of whistling , to minimise sacrilegious noise; and for replacing the gravestones on the slopes of the embankment. "

What similar promises are HS2 making 150 years later, I wonder?
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