Victoriagate/Eastgate Quarter Development

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 10 Apr, 2013 10:09 pm

Leodian wrote: It is reported on page 22 of the YEP today (April 10 2013) that "Leeds's £130 million Eastgate retail quarter has a new name. From today the highly anticipated shopping and leisure area...will be known as Victoria Gate". One step closer,but can Leeds continue to depend on retail to drive our economy?

Post by **cnosni** » Thu 18 Apr, 2013 12:51 am

Plans and renders on this site for the now "Victoriagate" developmenthttp://www.victoriagate.co.uk/

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Thu 18 Apr, 2013 12:57 pm

If I understand the plans correctly then Victoria Gate will cover the top area of the current car park between George Street and Harewood Street and then go across to front Eastgate. The John Lewis store will cover the lower part of the car park to Union Street (where the swimming bath once stood) and the new car park will be where Millgarth Police Station is. In the information with the plans it stated "Victoria Gate will in total accommodate around 110,000m² of retail and leisure space. The second phase will include additional retail for major high street brands, leisure space, restaurants and a food court, additional parking spaces and a Low Carbon Energy Centre.Alongside regenerating the physical space, the first phase will also deliver up to 1,500 retail and hospitality jobs and 6,000 employment opportunities."I wonder what are "hospitality jobs"? As the Trinity Centre is to have a food court and one also at The Core I wonder if there will be a demand for yet another? I wonder if there are still plans to develop the area off Lady Lane where there are many long empty buildings? Perhaps that is to be the second phase.

Post by **cnosni** » Thu 18 Apr, 2013 5:05 pm

Leodian wrote: If I understand the plans correctly then Victoria Gate will cover the top area of the current car park between George Street and Harewood Street and then go across to front Eastgate. The John Lewis store will cover the lower part of the car park to Union Street (where the swimming bath once stood) and the new car park will be where Millgarth Police Station is. In the information with the plans it stated "Victoria Gate will in total accommodate around 110,000m² of retail and leisure space. The second phase will include additional retail for major high street brands, leisure space, restaurants and a food court, additional parking spaces and a Low Carbon Energy Centre.Alongside regenerating the physical space, the first phase will also deliver up to 1,500 retail and hospitality jobs and 6,000 employment opportunities."I wonder what are "hospitality jobs"? As the Trinity Centre is to have a food court and one also at The Core I wonder if there will be a demand for yet another? I wonder if there are still plans to develop the area off Lady Lane where there are many long empty buildings? Perhaps that is to be the second phase. Yeah Lady Lane is teh second phase,which is SUPPOSED to be built when phase one is done.Shame there is no provision for the multi story carpark next to John Lewis having a walkwat connection over to the Playhouse

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 02 Mar, 2014 9:49 pm

Talking of Leeds 'short term' and 'temporary' I should have been quite shocked to see that derelict waste land opposite the market was derelict land way back in 1941. But living in Leeds it doesn't really surprise me at all Construction hasn't started on the Eastgate Quarter yet mind. I found this photo whilst looking for info on the bar stones and thought it worth including on this thread. Photo from Leodis herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... AY=FULL4th September 1941 On the left is George Street domes of Leeds Kirkgate Market rising behind Harewood Street can be seen in the centre with Market Tavern on the junction with George Street. Building site is the construction of a static water tank.

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 7:52 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Talking of Leeds 'short term' and 'temporary' I should have been quite shocked to see that derelict waste land opposite the market was derelict land way back in 1941. But living in Leeds it doesn't really surprise me at all Construction hasn't started on the Eastgate Quarter yet mind. I found this photo whilst looking for info on the bar stones and thought it worth including on this thread. Photo from Leodis herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... AY=FULL4th September 1941 On the left is George Street domes of Leeds Kirkgate Market rising behind Harewood Street can be seen in the centre with Market Tavern on the junction with George Street. Building site is the construction of a static water tank. Indeed, i did not realise it was 1941.Its been like that as long as i remember, so what gets me is those people who are against the development on the site.I can see why some get upset about the demolition element, but its not as if the buildings concerned are unique or of architectural merit.Cant see me shopping in the stores myself, but i can see how it could benefit Leeds, and as its private money being invested then so be it.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 8:33 pm

cnosni wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Talking of Leeds 'short term' and 'temporary' I should have been quite shocked to see that derelict waste land opposite the market was derelict land way back in 1941. But living in Leeds it doesn't really surprise me at all Construction hasn't started on the Eastgate Quarter yet mind. I found this photo whilst looking for info on the bar stones and thought it worth including on this thread. Photo from Leodis herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... AY=FULL4th September 1941 On the left is George Street domes of Leeds Kirkgate Market rising behind Harewood Street can be seen in the centre with Market Tavern on the junction with George Street. Building site is the construction of a static water tank. Indeed, i did not realise it was 1941.Its been like that as long as i remember, so what gets me is those people who are against the development on the site.I can see why some get upset about the demolition element, but its not as if the buildings concerned are unique or of architectural merit.Cant see me shopping in the stores myself, but i can see how it could benefit Leeds, and as its private money being invested then so be it. The thing that surprised me, after lots of suggestions to the contrary, is that the main development now seems set to fill in the gap from George Street across Eastgate - leaving much of the derelict land across to the Inner Ring Road as it is. Surely the idea was sold as developing this waste ground?I'm still to be convinced that the closure of Eastgate to traffic and the funneling of all those buses, etc up George St onto Vicar Lane will work - this area is frequently gridlocked now.

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 04 Mar, 2014 11:02 pm

raveydavey wrote: cnosni wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Talking of Leeds 'short term' and 'temporary' I should have been quite shocked to see that derelict waste land opposite the market was derelict land way back in 1941. But living in Leeds it doesn't really surprise me at all Construction hasn't started on the Eastgate Quarter yet mind. I found this photo whilst looking for info on the bar stones and thought it worth including on this thread. Photo from Leodis herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... AY=FULL4th September 1941 On the left is George Street domes of Leeds Kirkgate Market rising behind Harewood Street can be seen in the centre with Market Tavern on the junction with George Street. Building site is the construction of a static water tank. Indeed, i did not realise it was 1941.Its been like that as long as i remember, so what gets me is those people who are against the development on the site.I can see why some get upset about the demolition element, but its not as if the buildings concerned are unique or of architectural merit.Cant see me shopping in the stores myself, but i can see how it could benefit Leeds, and as its private money being invested then so be it. The thing that surprised me, after lots of suggestions to the contrary, is that the main development now seems set to fill in the gap from George Street across Eastgate - leaving much of the derelict land across to the Inner Ring Road as it is. Surely the idea was sold as developing this waste ground?I'm still to be convinced that the closure of Eastgate to traffic and the funneling of all those buses, etc up George St onto Vicar Lane will work - this area is frequently gridlocked now. The other side of Eastgate , up to the inner ring road, is supposed to be phase 2.Hammerson have submitted plans for this area for demolition to provide temporary extra parking that will disappear whilst phase 1 is built (with its multi storey on the site of Millgarth).Though this parking would be needed (we would be losing George Street) one does wonder what will happen to the other side if phase 2 does not go ahead, probably stay what it is now, an overpriced and crappy car park.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 30 Mar, 2014 8:25 am

Looking further back it now appears the Leeds pot hole pay and display was waste land as far back as 1928. That's not bad going really, only another 14 years and prime City Centre land nothing but waste ground for a whole century! Buildings on Bernard Street and Harewood Street prior to demolition in 1928. Cars parked on street. Photo from Leodis herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIdentifier=24

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 30 Mar, 2014 10:11 am

Quite apart from the sad sight of all that waste land in the picture, what a treat to see that elegant Wolseley car - probably a 12 or 14 hp model as it looks just a bit bigger than a 10 !!I noticed yesterday afternoon that the car park on the former West Yorkshire bus station is now closed and sealed off with barriers.Also yesterday lunchtime, no less than three purple slugs in Eastgate together on the "every seven minutes" super 72 service - that's six staff and very few passengers - WHAT a circus if ever there was one. !!